Monday, June 29, 2009

What's black? And what's white?


What is black? And what is white? That's the question. I guess this is a very complex question to ask myself. I got this comment and I've heard it before:

"Be careful. If you start sounding too much like a Jamaican black man, these black women heaping praise on you, will soon dismiss you for being a black man in a white skin. lol."

What is being black? What is being white? Are there really something like being a "black" or "white"? Maybe I i like a lot that comes from the black culture - the african-american culture, the caribbean culture, the african culture. Music, art, design, style, fashion etc etc - it's all good things. 

And if I'm inspirered bu the black culture, does that really make me "less attractive" (what word should I use? LOL) to black women? I mean, I dont want a woman that act in a certain way, just beacuase she feels she must. I want here to be real. And if that means she's one way or another thats all-good and long as it is for real.

So fill me in - What is Black and what is white? :)

48 comments:

Blondecore said...

i think that "black", "white" and "asian" mean for most people: culture
if u do like african culture then go for it
human sexology is very complex stuff for most people, to the point that almost all people consider the topic of "human sexulaity" some kind of a taboo.
dont you think?
i am open to idea that people can built strong love relationships with other races and even animals (soon i think that bestiality can go mainstream - in my university already i writed several articles for growing number of "animal lovers" - mark my words soon bestiality gonna become "the new gay thing")
but i have a question to u Andreas - why you preffer non-white black haired females? i know that a lot of white females are ugly, but average speaking the most desirable looking females are european ones.
this question is not racist btw (and plz to all black readers of this blog: dont use "race cards")
can u answer my simple question?

blackisbeautiful.se said...

This is getting crazy... just because I'm using the word "b'woy" instead of "boy" that means I'm identifying with the jamaican man????

Why put soooo much time of your life discussing something so irrelevant and just wierd thing?

So, me using some words make me wanna be a black man???! You see how crazy that sounds???

And so what, if I am inspirered by black culture...? Does that make me a bad human being????

"For a white man in Sweden to use the word "bwoy" instead of "boy" to describe himself, surely he's adopting language from a culture and race of people in a geographic location many miles from his own."

So Im adopting that? I mean we are living in modern times, and international world-wide time. Where everything is getting global and cultures are exchanging ideas and integrating. This is the reality.

Blondecore said...

"So Im adopting that? I mean we are living in modern times, and international world-wide time. Where everything is getting global and cultures are exchanging ideas and integrating. This is the reality."
yes, exactly. globalism is a good thing - uniting nations and people from various ethnicities and races, and of course religions. if people have good attitude everyone can "befriend" them (this is not what i ment to say, but my english words are limited).
and is quit fascinating european sexuality. just before 50 years - interracial relationships was something "sinfull" but now is accepted (only really closed-minded persons are against that in europe), another example: pedophilia was considered something "monstrous" just before 15 years ago in Europe, but now in Hungary: girls on age 13 can start porn career legally...
societies in europe change very fast... but i am pro interracial (this is not for me, but if some people have "real" love and passion for another culture/race then everything is ok)
buh bye Andreas;P

Anonymous said...

Andreas uses some words that are being used in the jamaican/black community. And so what!!

I'm from the caribbean and I use a lot of latin american/street language. Because we have a lot of influence of latin american countries like Venezuela and Colombia. But does that make me a latina girl? We have a lot of dutch influence too in our language because of the past. But all of this doesn't matter. Everybody can talk and act the way they wanna. We live in a FREE world.

Andreas just do you. It's all good.
Lost of kisses to you, Papi=(in latin america means honey, sweetie) LOL

Rosi

Anonymous said...

So Im adopting that? I mean we are living in modern times, and international world-wide time. Where everything is getting global and cultures are exchanging ideas and integrating. This is the reality.
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And that is exactly what's happening. It is not about wanting to be this or that. If a black man eats caviar( stereotypically eaten by the rich mainstream), does it mean that he wants to be white? Well, in many cases he does...LOL!! Black men actually envy white men, which is why he tries to duplicate everything he has....including white women, to make him feel "better" about himself.

So this is why some folks around here croon and cry about Andreas wanting to be so-called black. Because chances are MANY black men, including Mister Black on this blog want to be like Andreas. Mr. Black is jealous because we find Andreas appealing and Mr. Black is not.

Andreas, thanks so much for being a bold gentlemen.

Moorena

Blondecore said...

Andreas need to regulate the comments on this blog.
for example this anonymous user "moorena" use very harsh and even "abusive" words toward other users which read this particular blog.
why you do this Moorena, can u tell me? its very stupid to try humiliating people which you dont know and probably you never gonna meet them in real life

Anonymous said...

"Black men actually envy white men, which is why he tries to duplicate everything he has....including white women, to make him feel "better" about himself."

So the white man here, doing likewise and duplicating the black man and everything he has.. including black women, to make him feel "better" about himself, is being envious of the black man? lol.

Anonymous said...

Blondecore,

It is better to let the bigots air themselves in the public space, so we can see what they're up to. They're far more dangerous when their sinister plots are hidden from the eyes of the public.

The character known as "Moorena" has the residue of slavery mixed in with feminism and white supremacy. She is a complex mentally disturbed hate monger, seeking her "liberation" and "self-empowerment" by all means necessary. She was indoctrinated by some form of feminazism to see the males of her race as her enemy - the obstacle to her greatness as a woman. In her mind, the only race of man that is worthy of her time, is the man with the most power - the white man. She also sees the white woman as an obstacle to her success.

If Moorena was the admin of this blog, only black women and white men would be allowed here.

Anonymous said...

How nice to see our resident trolls get along well together. :)

Anonymous said...

Words don't have color.

There are many black people who speak perfect english at all times. Are they "trying to be white" since english is an anglo language?

The world has gotten a lot smaller in recent decades. The very fact that we can dialogue with a man in Sweeden from all over the world proves this point. The exchange of cultural influences is no longer impeded by geography. We are all constantly being influenced by other cultures around the world, whether we know it or not.

There is no difference between the black guy next door hearing and adopting a new hip hop phrase and Andreas doing so. The only difference is their neighborhood and their skin color. Do we really want to make distinctions based on that?

In my humble opinion, no person, culture, or race, owns words. They are free for anyone to use, as they will and this says nothing about the person who chooses to use them.

Nikaras said...

Anonymous is right.

Anonymous said...

Reductio ad Hitlerum.

kala77 said...

What is black and what is white?

You got me there. Race identification is so convoluted. So I really don't want to go into that.

I think because race and culure are intertwined, thats when the problem can occur.

For example, when you have a person that is soo in love with the rap/hip hop (which is associated with black american people) and thinks that all black people in America are, its just pathetic.

Nothing wrong in liking rap/hip hop, but people end up looking stupid thinking that they can just start talking and dressing a certain way because they think that is what all black people do.

I think its great when we can all just take a step back from our own culture and try to learn and appreciate other cultures. Its even more great when the apprecation is genuine. However, the worst thing that someone can do is to exploit a certain culture.

Andreas, I don't take you as guy that just like black women just beacause they are black. I take you as a person from a European (Swedish) background that has a genuine interest in many black cultures from around the world.

You don't hate anyone because of your apprecition. I guess some people hate that because of their own distain for black cultures around the world and black people.

American Black Chick in Europe said...

OK, some folks may not agree with me on this one, but I feel that race is a false social construct. In general, folks have a very difficult time defining what it is to "be black," "be white," "be Asian," etc. And I think that's because when most folks talk about race, they actually mean culture. Within one race, culture varies greatly. Look at Asians for example. Asian is considered a race, but culturally there are huge difference between the Japanese, the Chinese and Indians (and yes, technically Indians would be considered Asian). Looking at the "black race" you still see a wide mixture of cultures. Nigerian culture is not the same as Jamaican culture which is not the same as African-American culture. Even within African-American culture, Southern African-American culture is different from the culture of African-Americans outside of the South.

As Andreas noted we live in a global world now. Music, language, ideas and culture are no longer specific to one geographic area. I grew up thinking that rap was pretty much a Black American thing. But when I got older and travelled more I realised that rap doesn't just "belong" to Black Americans. I went to a racially mixed school where almost everyone listed to at least some rap (I'm also from Atlanta, so that might have had something to do with it). I think I this was really driven home to me when I was working with a language school in Atlanta and two of our potential clients were Swedish musicians who wanted to come to the US to improve their English. Turns out they were very popular and well known white Swedish rappers. When I went to Germany, I found out that the hip hop/rap scene is incredibly popular...even though Germany's Afro-German population is tiny.

So does that make rap and other things that have traditionally defined Blackness apart of "being black"? And are those who embrace it trying to "act black?" I don't think rap, or anything really now completely belongs to one group. And I think the idea of certain things "being black" or "being white" or "being" any certain race is very limiting. The idea of certain "things" making someone black (for example, how one talks, how one dresses, how well one does in school, etc.) is silly. If we all bought into that, we would never have had the band Hootie and the Blowfish (an alternative band with a black lead singer). I hope all that made sense!

Anonymous said...

I wonder if the whole definition of “race” is being constantly missapplied. What is Black? What is White? What is Asian?

It seems that “race/ethnicity” as we so often use it, is really just an easy way of categorization. It’s a general term that we can only use to make general identification. But when it comes down to it, there is really no compendious way to define what being “Black” or “White” truly is unless you are using the terms in an extremely indefinite way.

What we so easily call “Black people” in reality are made up of hundreds of different cultures—perhaps thousands. They do not all agree, they do not all dance well, they don’t all run fast, they don’t all have big ding dongs, they don’t all eat the same food, or talk the same language. They don’t all even like each other. The exact same thing can be said about Whites.

Before the Age of Exploration, most of the wars fought were between bitter enemies within the same ethnic groups. The fiction that anyone can define how “Black people” act or what “White people” have done is like trying to to describe the characteristics of Red Cars. There really is no such thing as “race” in the way that most people think of it.

FunkyStarkitty50 said...

I really think that it's more cultural than anything else. I've dated WM who lived in Black neighborhoods and were genuinely accepted by the Black community. It wasn't fake at all. Well, one actually thought he was Black, but that's another story. This is supposed to be a multicultural world, so there shouldn't be a problem if someone takes an interest in another culture and mixes it with their own. Personally, I'd rather be with a WM who I didn't have to explain Black culture to. It makes it much easier in the relationship. And, as a BW, you don't feel so much like an experiment when a WM already knows and understands the culture.

Anonymous said...

Andreas, in truth, I believe your love for black women is partly inspired by a love for black CULTURE. You love the music and art that comes out of black nations and peoples and have come, as such, to see black women - particuarly those that embrace this culture in their speech & dress - as beautiful. I know it to be true because the same thing has happened to me where white men are concerned. I love certain things about "white" culture and as such, white men - particularly those who fully embrace this part of themselves - have come to look "sexy" and desirable to me.

I think with this ever-expanding global village of ours, this is going to become an increasingly normal and common phenomenon.

blackisbeautiful.se said...

American Black Chick in London: "Two well-know swedish white rappers..." Curious who are they?! :)

Anonymous said...

"There really is no such thing as “race” in the way that most people think of it."

Then what is race? Without race what identity do you have? A name on a birth certificate? It is clear that many of you are not comfortable in your own skin. You must be a fool.

Anonymous said...

Let's make love people, not war. Let we just love each other!!! aight

Anonymous said...

If your entire sense of identity is based on your skin colour, you are a sad, sad person. Which explains a lot.

American Black Chick in Europe said...

@ Andreas - Sorry, I can't say! I technically wasn't even supposed to know who the potential clients were, but someone at my office told me anyway, after making me promise I wouldn't tell anyone else. Although I don't work for that language school anymore, a promise is a promise. I'll give you a hint though: Do you know of a popular white rap duo who were trying to break into the American market a couple of years ago? That's why they were thinking of working with my language school, in order to improve their English. They're probably in their mid to late 20s now. Those hints probably don't help at all! :-D

American Black Chick in Europe said...

Oh! And on an unrelated side note, I didn't even know Sweden had a rap/hip hop scene. When I visited Stockholm a couple years ago I was surprised to find so much hip hop and rap on the radio stations, performed by both well known Americans and local Swedes. I think that was about the time period I realised that the idea of "owning" something (art, culture, music, etc.) and identifying it with solely with one race/ethnic group/nationality doesn't really exist in a globalised world.

Zindzi (aka Black Girl Pain) said...

If I may add my 2 cents...I agree with anonymous @ 3:14.

You said: "So Im adopting that? I mean we are living in modern times, and international world-wide time. Where everything is getting global and cultures are exchanging ideas and integrating. This is the reality."

Yes, this is reality, but you can't expect everyone to be happy with that. A lot of groups of people who have been historically oppressed don't like for white people (or whatever group historically oppressed them) to mimic anything that they feel is culturally "theirs." I remember growing up and always hearing Black people say, "can't we have anything for ourselves," when they'd hear about white jazz musicians or blues singers, etc, etc, etc. There's plenty of reasoning behind this. When a group of people have been oppressed, their culture is sometimes all they have to hold on to. They feel that this is just one more thing their that group is taking away from them. And then, of course, there's the fear that a white person will do what they've been doing forever, and be congratulated for it to the point where you'd think THEY'D created it (i.e. Elvis, Eminem, Justin Timberlake...who people were calling the New KOP before MJ died).

A lot of Jewish people don't like Jewish people to marry non-Jews. At first, their reasoning was that they were afraid that they'd die out. That's obviously NOT true now, but a lot of them still feel this way. So, its not only Black people.

Ibou said...

Interesting discussion. I agree with Zindzi here.

As long as there are unequality in the world this will be a sensitive thing. People all over the world copy "black" culture and style. Many do so here in Sweden for example. But still there are clubs, that plays Black music, that is difficult for a black or brown man to enter.

blackisbeautiful.se said...

American Black Chick In London: Now you got me even more curious... LOL At least, tell me, are they listed on this?! :D

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_över_svenska_hiphopartister

blackisbeautiful.se said...

If I'd guess I'd say: "Snook"... or maybe "Afasi & Filthy"... not that many duos with all-white peeps in Sweden...

Anonymous said...

@ Zindzi

There are only two ways to look at this "cultural ownership" issue.

1) People who fit (more or less) into the same ethnic category as the creator of a thing own it because they look (more or less) like the original creator.

2) People who love, adopt, and feel a connection to a thing "own it" each for themselves.

If definition #1 is true, then little black girls should stop taking ballet lessons, and black boys should not be taught to play golf.

-As for colonialism, Andreas comes from a country that had no colonies in Africa, Asia, or the New World. Sweden also never imported slaves. So you're saying that the reason he shouldn't use certain cultural phrases is because he looks (more or less) like some other people who did some bad things?

So, why is that kind of thinking prejudiced when it comes from a White person, but OK when it comes from you?

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Zindzi (aka Black Girl Pain) said...

LOL...ok anonymous. First of all, I'm speaking from an American POV, and in America, white folks are white folks. There are very few white folks over here who know anything about, or even really identify, with the nationality of their ancestors (except for a lot of Irish people). Most of them just identify as white-Americans. Therefore, the fact that a white person's ancestors didn't come from a country that had colonies doesn't mean they aren't seen as "white" and therefore part of the group that many people of color feel oppressed/oppress them. They certainly still reap the benefits of white privilege that countries with colonies earned for them.

The other thing about that, and perhaps you didn't catch this in my first post, but culture is ALL some minority groups feel they had/have. I don't think most white people, regardless of where they live, can say their culture is all they had/have. They have control of the government, social mores, the media, etc, etc, etc. Plus, white people make THEIR culture the DOMINANT culture in societies, so how could they complain if minorities take part in it? I don't think any white person would feel like someone is taking something from "them" if BP study ballet or golf. (But let's not forget that there is RAMPANT racism in both of those fields, so maybe white people really are like people of color in that way, but just won't admit it.)

Where did I say he shouldn't use these phrases? I simply explained to him why people might be upset that he does. Let's not place words in people's mouths.

Lastly, as Pa Lbou stated, "As long as there are unequality in the world this will be a sensitive thing."

Most white people have not endured the inequality (based on their race) that people of color have. And most people of color have never been in a position where their prejudice can seriously negatively affect a white person. Simply put, because of this world's history, there are things people of color can say that don't have the same meaning/implications as a white person.

p.s. "People who love, adopt, and feel a connection to a thing "own it" each for themselves."

That's called "cultural appropriation." And part of the problem is that when white folks do this, they truly do try to OWN IT! (As I said earlier about Elvis, Eminem, J. Timberlake...people act like these folks are the best performers in the genres they belong to, totally ignoring the Black folks who create it and perform it much better.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation

p.s.s. Anonymous, I find it rather odd that you identified my comment as "prejudiced," but you didn't say anything about Blondecore who said, "why you preffer non-white black haired females? i know that a lot of white females are ugly, but average speaking the most desirable looking females are european ones."

The most desirable looking females are European...that didn't bother you? Hmmmmm...

Anonymous said...

@Zindzi

"Therefore, the fact that a white person's ancestors didn't come from a country that had colonies doesn't mean they aren't seen as "white" and therefore part of the group that many people of color feel oppressed/oppress them."

That doesn't make any sense. If some guy got mugged by a group of Blacks, are all Black people culpable for the actions of the people who actually did the crime? There is no such thing collective ethnic responsibility. People are answerable for their own actions and ideas, not for those of other people considered to be "in the same ethnic group."

Listen to the way that you speak:

"They have control of the government, social mores, the media, etc, etc, etc. Plus, white people make THEIR culture the DOMINANT culture in societies."

Who is "THEY?" Are ALL White people in on this, or just the Republicans? You tend to paint with a very broad brush, Madam. How about the White people who are disenfranchised? Or is that even posible in your world view?

As for "cultural appropriation," should we then assume that every White person who uses urban slang is a modern incarnation of Elvis? Can it be just possible that times have changes even slightly since the 1950s?

As for Blondecore, that is quite the spirited high-horse you're riding there... pity that it has no legs. Since my handle is Anonymous, you obviously have no idea whether I have engaged her or not.

Zindzi (aka Black Girl Pain) said...

Anonymous: "There is no such thing collective ethnic responsibility. People are answerable for their own actions and ideas, not for those of other people considered to be "in the same ethnic group."

Do whites benefit from white privilege? Hey, if there's collective privilege, then there's probably collective responsibility. (Never said this should be how things are, just saying that this IS how things are.) If you don't want the latter, work hard to get rid of the former. (And as an African-American, trust me, there's collective responsibility. That's why we have racial profiling, or studies that show that people who "black-sounding" names are called back for job interviews less than people with European sounding names. So, I'm sorry, it definitely exists. Maybe not for those who are apart of the majority, but definitely for us. Sue me if I choose not to feel bad for white people because a few folks of color don't want y'all using some of our words. Boo-hoo. That's hardly that big of an injustice.)

"They" is white people. The majority of people in control of all those things I named, where people of color are the minority, are white people! Tell me that's not the truth. White people who are "disenfranchised" are rarely victims because of their race. That's usually based on their class. Of course there are times when white people fight each other along ethnic lines...but the folks who are in the majority/control are STILL white people. Not people of color.

Sure times have changed, but they haven't changed enough for the idea of cultural appropriation to be void. As I quoted someone as saying before, as long as there's inequality, there will be these issues.

And you're right, I don't know whether you've engaged Blondecore or not because you'd rather be able to say whatever you'd like without a single indicator of who you are. For all we know, you could be all of the anonymous posters on here. Many people who don't want to take responsibility for their views are like that though.

Anonymous said...

Zindzi

"Do whites benefit from white privilege? Hey, if there's collective privilege, then there's probably collective responsibility."

I'm sorry but you aren't very logical. To say that collective priviledge and collective responsibility are connected or equivalent is not logical. If a White infant is born into the world, theoretically, he would immediately benefit from "White Priviledge." So is that baby then to be held responsible for that? He has nothing to do with it, and would not even be aware of it until he got much older. The two concepts are not linked in the way that you describe.

The examples or "collective responsibility" that you give do not go to the fact or principle, but to how certain people or groups of people(including yourself)have misinterpreted it. The answer to your observations are that racial profiling is unjust, whether it's applied by a White policeman or a Black blogger.

As for posting Anonymously on a blog... are you serious? In case you haven't noticed, this is the interntz. There is no gaurantee that anyone here matches their pictures or profile. For all I know you may have 50 different profiles that you use. Andreas might be a fat Chinese woman who lives in Canada. Do you really not understand that?

Zindzi (aka Black Girl Pain) said...

Anonymous, trust, I'm logical. I've had these same discussions in academic settings and have heard WHITE PROFESSORS say some of the things I've said here. (Look up Joe Feagin and try to learnd something)So, just because you don't agree doesn't mean its illogical. Ugh.

Secondly, when that child got to the point where he was aware of his privilege, if he's not doing anything to fight it, he's COMPLICIT, RESPONSIBLE and just as GUILTY as his ancestors. (You're right, I guess Black Americans don't really have that kinda collective responsibility cause we ain't done that kinda collective damage.)

*sigh* And you've YET to even address the issues of inequality that make issues like this a problem. Very typical.

Two people can't have the same blogger ID. Therefore, even though that person might not be who they say they are in real life, they are taking some sort of responsibility for their words by identifying themselves in some way. I see why a lot of bloggers don't allow people to comment anonymously, and I also see why a lot of folks don't waste their time responding...hmmm, guess I'll take a hint on that one, and bid you farewell.

Unknown said...

Perhaps "collective responsibility" is a misnomer. I issue the term "collective inheritance". We inherit transgenerational good and evil from our ancestors, and despite that these communal influences often pose problems for the autonomy of self they are nonetheless burdens (light or heavy). It may be unjust and limiting, but it's reality.

Something that is interesting to note is that collective culpability is something that is doesn't typcially resonate with whites. I should emphasize American whites for mention of others would only be speculation on my part. For example, my friend is white and if she witnesses a white person acting below reproach she doesn't experience any racial guilt. Conversely, the actions of individual blacks (Americans, I suppose) resonate communally. I think this stems from necessary social cohesion as a result of oppression and the fact that concepts of personal agency existed very early in Indo-Europeans cultures. This is one of the reasons why members of the the "black American community" can come down so hard on its own if one is perceived as behaving in a way that falls outside of the narrow limits of "acting black".

I reiterate: one may feel that its his responsibility or not, the actions of his fathers; but nonetheless it is what has been bequeathed to him.

Anonymous said...

Zindzi, I'll make it short.

For all your "logic" you have yet to present any logical arguments other than to use the words "Academic Setting" and emphasizing the words, "WHITE PROFESSORS," which does'nt really qualify. If you have an actual argument to make, then by all means, make it. But talking about when and where you've had this discussion before is neither helpful nor persuasive.

As for your second paragraph, you have inserted a whole new argument that actually goes to my point of individual responsibility — NOT that of the group. If an *individual* embraces or even fails to resist an unfair system that opresses one group at the expense of another, then that is an act of PERSONAL neglect by an individual, and should be judged on a person to person basis — not on general skin color. And, of course, if you don't actually know the person then you can't make the judgement.

And lastly:
"Two people can't have the same blogger ID."

Naturally that is incorrect. If a person has access to more than one IP address, then they can create as many blogger IDs as they have IP addresses available. ...think.

But all of this is really academic. If I choose an icon and/or made up some "catchy" little handle, please expain how that would be me "taking responsibility" for my statements ...think. please

Anonymous said...

@Jessica:

"collective inheritance."

MONETARY RENUMERATION

A man steals the property of poor family. He lives his life and then dies, leaving his fortune to his sons. Now, if the sons of the poor family who's property was stolen, (hearing of the death of the old thief) then ask the thief's sons to pay them the cost of the stolen property, then the sons of the thief are responsible to pay it.

If they refuse to pay, only THEN do they *inherit* the guilt and responsibility of their father.

PUNITIVE RENUMERATION

A man kills another man after having an argument with him. Nobody sees the crime so the murderer hides the body in his basement. Some years later, the murderer dies and in the course of cleaning the basement, his crime is discovered.

A few days later the police arrive at the home and arrest the murderer's son for the crime because of "inherited responsibility."

The first example of collective inheritance, I would accept. The second I would not.

BUT even in the example of Monetary Renumeration, you cannot hold all of the sons responsible collectively unless they act collectively. If there are five sons an one of them votes to pay back the money, but is out-voted by the rest, then THAT individual is not responsible for the crime of his father. Sooner or later it will always come down to individuals and how they personally respond to social injustice. You just can't do it by race.

Anonymous said...

If you are an American citizen, are you all "collectively responsible" for American foreign policy because you may benefit from it? -no matter your color?

American Black Chick in Europe said...

@ Andreas - Wow, I didn't realise Wikipedia had a list of Swedish rappers! First: good guesses! Second: I'll only say that the group I was talking about may or may not be on that list. LOL! Sorry, like I said, a promise is promise and I promised not to tell. Have a nice weekend!

J.Gracey said...

In answer to the question. White and Black are cultural concepts. Which is a very short way of stating a lot of complicated nonsense originally instituted by racists.
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Don't feed the troll. Let them stew in their mire of vitriolic muck.

Zindzi (aka Black Girl Pain) said...

Well put Jessica! ITA!!!!

India said...

"there are things people of color can say that don't have the same meaning/implications as a white person."

Zindzi, Seriously???? When did two wrongs make a right?! Sounds like you're saying only black people have the right to make racist remarks. Do most Black Americans resent Whites?! It seems this sort of hate is being passed from generation to generation. This is what I see as a black foreigner.

"I find it rather odd that you identified my comment as "prejudiced," but you didn't say anything about Blondecore"

Well, I never saw any of your comments regarding the black member of the KKK, Mr. Anonymous. Have you ever read any of his ignorant, abusive, disgusting comments. He even stood up for Blondie, despite her attacks towards black women.
I guess these don't bother you? Hmmmmm...


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"Only a black man could make such beauty. Remember to give thanks to the great and potent black man."

"You should purge yourselves of your feminist man-hating psyche and shower your creator with honor and blessings." (he speaks of himself)

His rants are disgusting, and offensive to women like me in interracial relationships. He despises anything that isn't black. Anyway, just by looking at your comments, I would say you don't care.
It's a shame we can't treat each other like human beings.

xoxo

Anonymous said...

I have to say that i agree 100% with Carib.girl.

There is a school of thought within the ethnic activist community which supposes that because white people are currently in power, that their racism is somehow the only kind of racism that is dangerous.

But that's like saying that the only kind of murdurers who are dangerous are those who own weapons. The obvious question is, what would happen if the "powerless" murdurer DID get his hands on a weapon? It is the mindset of the murdurer which ultimately poses the greatest danger to society, not the means.

And so the same is true of prejudice. It doesn't matter whether or not one has the power to efficiently oppress anoter ethnicity, the problem is the hateful mindset that wishes to.

Anonymous said...

"His rants are disgusting, and offensive to women like me in interracial relationships. He despises anything that isn't black."

The black man revealing his glorious achievement is an offence to a black woman? So what's new, self-serving bigoted interracial evangelist. Your propaganda that paints the black man has being a no-good animal has been destroyed. You shiver in your boots when the black man can tell the world of his wonderful creations. You don't want the truth to be told. Black is beautiful. Love it.

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should try working on your creative writing skillz. Or get some new material or something. Because lately, you're just repeating the same stupid sentences over and over and over...

Like a big, black, DUMMY.

India said...

"Your propaganda that paints the black man has being a no-good animal has been destroyed"

What propaganda?! Destroyed?! HAHAHAHAHA...Where are you getting these things?! Don't put words in my mouth you RACIST fool.
You make up these things in your mind.
You are definitely not from this world. You know, I'm done with your sinful mantras. It makes no sense. You are unbelievably ignorant, irrational, and childish...LOL. People like you will never change their racist ways. The only thing you contribute to society is hate. Once again enjoy being a racist, and remember, it doesn't matter how many bigoted statements you make, everybody will continue loving, liking everyone from any race. Iman will still be with David Bowie, Heidi Klum will still be with Seal, and I will still be happy with my boyfriend. You can't stop people from falling in love.

"You shiver in your boots when the black man can tell the world of his wonderful creations"

It's unbelievable how racist and malicious you are, and for your information, I fear no one, but God.

Peace, cheers.
Spread love, not hate